Wizarding Games: What if

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What if...


Details: What if one slight decision at any point in the Harry Potter books had been different? What if Dean Thomas' father had told Dean's mother why he left the family to protect them? What if Ariana was standing one foot to the right had never been killed? What if Ariana had decided to stay indoors instead of going outside and meeting those Muggles in the first place? What if Kreacher had gone crazy and killed the baby Regulus meaning Sirius was the only child of the Blacks?

Have a think and a debate/disscussion about how small/big a change could have changed something ridic big/not at all. Uh. Be creative! try to find something different or interesting to change, you can use the ones above if you must.

Steps:
1. Pick a thing from HP to change
2. Explain how you think this would have changed the way the story unfolded, and if it'd change the outcome at all. Maybe the differences in the world once the story was over? (min 100 words)
3. Discuss/debate with other people about yours and theirs. Do you think it wouldn't have made the changes they think it would? Explain why. Do you agree and see some other changes that would have occurred, let them know :) (min 30 words and you can't just wholeheartedlyagree and gush at them)


Rules:

1. Don't pick the same one as someone else. If someone has already picked something then reply to their comment discussing/debating
2. Don't cause drama. Prove you can all civilly debate and discuss stuff.
3. Take heed of the word limits (100 words for first comment, 30 words for additional replies with a point that add to the discussion/debate)
4. Try not to make it a silly thing e.g. Harry ate some toast one morning instead of cereal and therefore the world ended.

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<b>Thing you're changing:</b> <b>How do you think this would have affected the outcome of the books?</b> min 100words for this section



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Courtney Rose/Puff

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I think this would have made a difference, only if Dumbledore actually allowed Sirius to A) take care of Harry, and B) even have contact with him. It could be that Harry would still need the protection of his blood relatives to keep him safe. I like to think that Harry would have been much better off living with Sirius over the Dursleys no matter what.

Laura//Hufflepuff

[pixiestyxs.livejournal.com]

This is interesting. Because you could then wonder if Voldemort would still be evil ala the nature v. nurture debate. I guess my question is how much of his evilness can be construed from his hatred of Muggles based off his father and the orphanage experience and how much if it is just him? Who knows, but I like to think that you're right and everything would have been much happier had his father just accepted his mother and him.

Laura//Hufflepuff

[pixiestyxs.livejournal.com]

This is an interesting idea. I think Petunia and Vernon were so obsessed with being normal that they might have treated Dudley the same way they treated Harry, which might have let the two boys bond though.

Laura//Hufflepuff

[pixiestyxs.livejournal.com]

I really wish this would have happened. Or at least someone had told the Ministry that she was an unregistered Animagus. That might have made a difference too. Then she would have had to at least get her stories the legal way.

Laura//Hufflepuff

[everythingshiny.livejournal.com]

Thing you're changing: Ron and Harry didn’t take the car in CoS, but waited for help.
How do you think this would have affected the outcome of the books?
Firstly, the two boys wouldn’t get into trouble at the beginning of the term, Secondly, Ron would have his wand intact throughout the book, which would have been helpful through out their adventures.
Thirdly, Gilderoy would have perhaps performed that memory spell, instead of it backfiring onto himself and they wouldn’t have rescued Ginny, who probably would have died :(. Along with that, Harry wouldn’t have learnt about the sword of Gryffindor so early on (ohh important later on I see what you did there) and would have lost one of the things that make life worth living for in the final books.
Finally, Tom Riddle might have lived and we would have had two Voldemorts for the price of one, and surely that can’t be a good thing.

Tash//slytherin

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Tash//Slytherin

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Aww this would have been so nice, and Harry would be so different to who he is in the books. It would have been interesting to see if that harry could defeat Voldemort though.

Tash//slytherin

[everythingshiny.livejournal.com]

I do enjoy seeing the different aspects of sorting in gryffindor house (we see ravendors, slytherdors and gryffinpuffs) and it would be interesting to see from those perspectives in other houses, but i won't ramble.
But yeah, They would last a day without Hermione.

Tash//Slytherin

[everythingshiny.livejournal.com]

oh, poor MOLLY. That would be really sad, and yes i agree about being more fired up and wanting no one to get involved. I also think Harry would be slightly more lost - i think aside from Sirius and Lupin he looked up to Arthur quite a bit too.

Tash//Slytherin

[everythingshiny.livejournal.com]

Wow that would really kinda screw Harry LOL. I always wondered what would have happened if the horcruxes weren't so easy to decipher, you know? Plus the final battle might be very very different.

Tash//Slytherin

[everythingshiny.livejournal.com]

ahhhhh this would be so so interesting. and i want it. I think he would be so different, and lost without people - maybe hogwarts wouldn't be a home for him as much as it is, and that is one of the big things that makes him understand voldemort. But if he was an outcast at school - he'd still be happier than at home with the dursleys but maybe not as happy? There would be other slytherins he'd get along with though i'm sure.

Tash//Slytherin

[astrophelind.livejournal.com]

I agree that things would be easier and he wouldn't go on to commit mass murder, etc, but no doubt his grandfather and uncle would see him and his mother as dead to the world. What with Merope having 'infected' the Gaunt family tree with muggle blood according to their view, I wonder if it would swing things the other way. Would Tom grow up determined to show he can be just as much the wizard as a pureblood can? I almost see him as becoming quietly obsessed with proving how adept at magic he is in the long run.

Ria//Slytherin//4

[astrophelind.livejournal.com]

You've thought this through! It's interesting that you picked to change such a small and seemingly insignificant thing. Actually the long term consequences are frightening, especially with Gilderoy and Tom Riddle in the mix. I don't know if it would go off without a hitch because there are so many variables to consider, but it's definitely a challenging situation.

Ria//Slytherin//5

[pixiestyxs.livejournal.com]

Yeah I definitely think that Snape would have been able to keep his role as double agent for much longer and some more deaths might have been prevented with the information he could have gathered.

Laura//Hufflepuff

[pixiestyxs.livejournal.com]

I think that yeah once Harry got in school he would have had to been able to get to know Sirius, and I would hope that even though Dumbledore wouldn't have let him live with Sirius, he would at least have the knowledge that he had a godfather and then he could use that against the Dursleys. He might have been better taken care of that way. They might have feared upsetting a full grown wizard.

Laura//Hufflepuff

[pixiestyxs.livejournal.com]

Oh wow, I don't even want to contemplate all of those things :) I definitely think you are right though that this one little event could have such large consequences. Lockhart would have had no compunctions against using the memory charm on both boys, and had Tom Riddle been able to come to life from the diary by killing Ginny he would have been able to start his conquest of the Wizarding world that much sooner.

Laura//Hufflepuff

[everythingshiny.livejournal.com]

Plus you know, Dobby saved the day! again! He basically achieved what he meant to achieve without actually knowing it lol.

Tash//Slytherin

[lotrangel17.livejournal.com]

Thing you're changing: Petunia wasn't scare of what Lily could do but was fascinated by it.
How do you think this would have affected the outcome of the books? Petunia would have been a much more understanding and loving aunt to Harry and would have been more involved in his early years. If Harry had known all during the first years of his life about being a wizard then his attitude and actions throughout the books would have been different. Its also quite possible he would not have needed friends like Ron and Hermione because he would already know things about the Wizarding world and how things were done and all about Voldemort being told all along by his aunt about James and Lily. Also Pentunia might have been closer to Severus and hate him and therefore Severus could have been more of an influence on Harry as he grew up and Severus could have prepared him more for the time when Voldemort came back. Severus could have been more like an uncle to Harry and the whole outcome of the story would be different because Severus would never be trusted by Voldemort had this occurred.

Stephanie//Hufflepuff//167 words

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I do agree that if Draco hadn't fixed the vanishing cabinet Dumbledore wouldn't have died that night but I think that he eventually would have found a way to try and kill Dumbledore. Had it not been that night when there was time for Snape to get there and kill him then Draco might have succeeded and all the plans that Dumbledore and Snape made would not have worked. I do agree that Snape could have stayed double agent longer and that may lead to him not being killed by Voldemort in his attempt to master the wand.

Steph//Puff

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If Dudley was a wizard that would have definitely changed Harry's upbringing. There would have been other forces at work early on helping Harry prepare for what would eventually happen and something like that could impact everything of the books even to the extent of James and Lily surviving. Had Dudley been a wizard then Lily and Petunia would have been closer and she could possibly have been the secret keeper. If James and Lily had survived the events and outcome of the first wizarding war would have been far different.

Steph//Puff

[lotrangel17.livejournal.com]

I agree that Arthur's death would have pushed Molly a bit over the edge. She had already lost her twin brothers in the first war and if her husband was killed early on in the second war she would have pulled all her children back closer to her. In my opinion Molly is a force to be reckoned with and she would have let anyone, Bill or Charlie, talk her out of protecting Ron and Ginny and even to some extent Fred and George from participating in the efforts to take down Voldemort. Without Ron the whole dynamics of Harry and Hermione would lead to a different ending.

Steph//Puff

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It's supposed to be not hate - forgot to put the word 'not'. That doesn't make sense the wy it's written.

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Thing you're changing: Cedric and Harry didn't grab the Cup at the same time
How do you think this would have affected the outcome of the books? I think for this, it depends on who actually grabbed the Cup, obviously. If Harry grabbed the Cup, I think things would have been similar, but he wouldn't have been burdened with the death of Cedric. I think Harry always put too much blame on himself for things that were out of his control. On the other hand, if Cedric had been the one to grab the Cup, would the Death Eaters have kidnapped Harry anyway? Would they have stormed the pitch to bring him to their Master? Or would they have just laid low? And if Cedric's body had been sent back without Harry's statements that Voldemort was back, maybe everyone would have believed it more readily than when Harry said it to "get attention."

Malory//Ravenclaw//126 words