Divination Club: Term XXIV, Activity 1: Minority Reports - SOCIAL POST!

[anbyrobanby.livejournal.com]

Activity Name: Minority Reports
Deadline: Friday, 28th September @ 11:59PM UTC
Points: 1st/2nd/3rd/Participation Only: 50/40/30/10 points.
Details: This game will combine the two divinationy skills of predicting trends and influencing social conventions. Forsee the outcome of 10 threads on what you believe will be the LEAST favoured outcome each time.
10 pts for taking part in all ten threads, with placement for the folk with the greatest accuracy.

SOCIAL POST
(sorta)

This post is to tie in with the activity post posted to hh_clubs HERE

In order to place on that activity, you must post here twice. Collaborate, coerce, chatter, scheme or confess. I don't mind how you play it.

I'm going to leave you with 10 labelled threads, corresponding to the 10 questions. You don't have to use them all, but it'll be an opportunity for you to organise your thoughts along the way.

Remember, you are free to change your mind at any point, and you don't have to answer honestly. You just need to pick the least popular choice.

Also remember that if there is no lone option that is least popular (ie a tie for this), that question is null and void. You'll get house points, but it won't get you any nearer to placing.

So yeah. That's that. If I think of anything to say, I will.



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Comments

[anbyrobanby.livejournal.com]

This question is worth TWO Special Snowflake points.

This question can be found here: http://hh-clubs.livejournal.com/1894314.html?thread=68026794#t68026794

Please use this thread for discussion and banter. Answer on the other thread

[mmailliw.livejournal.com]

I wonder... what exactly is 'fluent'? I would barely say I'm fluent in English - yet many people might list themselves as 'fluent' with B2 or even B1 proficiency...

William//Slytherin

[flyingharmony.livejournal.com]

Very good question. I do consider myself fluent in English (but how can I consider myself fluent in my own native language?) but have no idea about my actual level since I never questioned that - higher than the FCE requirements probably since my graduation exam was at about that level and I mastered that with questions whether I was English after the oral part but... Anyway xD. Looking at French I think I know about the langauge skill in level B2 because found a friend in Paris who had level B2 and was definitely able to talk and understand French very well, so maybe B2 is on the edge to fluent? I think I'd consider fluent to be able to understand, talk, read and write without major mistakes and/or problems without having to stammer around more than talking or ask other people for help... Also, perhaps have a *little* sense for pronounciation?

Avi//Hufflepuff

[flipflop-diva.livejournal.com]

I definitely consider you fluent in English, and I haven't ever even heard you speak :) But you write amazingly well, so I just assume you understand and speak well, too.

I agree with your definition, though: being able to understand and communicate without too many major problems or mistakes (less emphasis on the mistakes, though, because seriously, people who are native English speakers make atrocious mistakes and they should really know better!!)


Kristine | Puff

[flyingharmony.livejournal.com]

aww thank you Kristine! ♥ Also, I'm planning to get a video post up pretty quite soon, so there might be lots of rambling to hear there *end shameless self-promo* xD

Yep! I make some mistakes in my native language too, of course... I mean, not too many but mistakes are there, no matter if native language or not, so one shouldn't judge the fluency just by mistakes... Unless it's a ton of mistakes that only an ESL/LSL could make of course, but I think it's pretty quite clear what I'm trying to say. At least I hope so!

Avi//Hufflepuff

[queer-theory.livejournal.com]

I agree with William that this really depends on how individuals define fluency. I know enough American Sign Language to manage a conversation, but I wouldn't call myself fluent in it, but I think other people might.

Heather//Hufflepuff

[schizophrenic0.livejournal.com]

Good point. I know the sign language alphabet (and some solitary words). Technically, I could hold a conversation with that (though it would take a while on my part to spell out each word). I don't think of myself as fluent, but I know people who would.

Colleen//Ravenclaw

[tralfamadore.livejournal.com]

I think many people tend to grossly overestimate their own language fluency, especially when they're not being asked to prove it in any way. As an aside, though, I've found the ILR Scale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILR_scale) both interesting and helpful in clarifying ideas about language proficiency.

Jude; Ravenclaw

[tralfamadore.livejournal.com]

What about grammar and syntax? Since ASL sentence structure is completely different from English, can a person call themselves fluent if they aren't completely familiar with/adhering to that structure?

(And I switched my comment to you with my comment to schizophrenic0 below you, but just roll with it. Haha.)

Jude; Ravenclaw

[queer-theory.livejournal.com]

That's a really good question. Because I took a class in ASL and am familiar with the structure, but still wouldn't consider myself fluent in it.

Heather/Puff

[abcdefghijkatie.livejournal.com]

I feel like there are a fair amount of international HIH-ers that speak English and an additional language so I'm torn on this....maybe I'm overestimating their numbers! I would consider myself fluent in English and Spanish though.

Katie//Hufflepuff

[pretty-panther.livejournal.com]

The thing is, a lot of hih members will be because English isn't their first language yet their skills need to be good enough to function within the community. If you can function in this comm, you could probably function any where with day to day conversation, so it depends on what you view as fluent~ Then of course, there is the fact that nearly everyone these days learns a second language at school, so you have to predict how many carry it on to a level where they are fluent in them. I would say I am fluent in French from taking it to university yet, I wouldn't say the same for German even though I took that to university too :P Languages are very tricky XD

Sam/Hufflepuff