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"THE LOTTERY" SHORT STORY DISCUSSION
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What does everyone think about social deviance as applied to The Lottery?

We all know what a social deviant is: someone who goes against the grain of society's norms. Conflict theory argues that social deviance is necessary for those who remain in the sphere of normal society, because it gives them some common ground, something to come together over.

I feel that this applies to the end of The Lottery, when Tessie Hutchinson is saying "It isn't fair, it isn't right." Perhaps the fact that she is rejecting the norms of her town makes it even easier for them to stone her: she becomes the deviant that it's necessary for them to band together against.

Sangrita, Slytherin

If you notice WHEN she starts shouting that it wasn't fair, it was AFTER she was the one that was marked to death. It would have been fine for her if it had been someone else. They didn't just do it to her because she didn't think it was right, she was trying to save herself. I wouldn't be surprised if every person shouted out that it wasn't fair when it was their turn. But as you see, it doesn't seem to affect the crowd that's coming in on her, even the little kids don't seem phased by the fact that they're killing someone. They even took the time to collect the rocks needed for the stoning.

If I can also use the movie as an example. In the movie they change it up a bit to a son who was left behind after his mother got stoned and he returns to the village to find out what happened which is when he then witnesses the Lottery for himself. He was put in to an insane assylum and the Lottery continued. So even if someone opposed them I don't think that they would choose them to sacrifice because they are so stewed in the tradition of it that it would dis-please God to have them choose a person a different way.

Jen//Hufflepuff

Well, of course she was saying that after she was picked, if it was me, I'd be doing the same thing.

I know they didn't stone her only because she didn't allegedly think it was right, but that might have given them more incentive. Especially in the first few Lotteries, whenever those started: it would be justified to stone someone to death who was protesting what the group decided was right for everyone as a whole.

Any way you slice it, it's justified: if someone were to be standing there peacefully not saying anything, stoning them would still be the thing to do because they're agreeing that the group decision is best, and offering themself up to it.

Sangrita, Slytherin

The sad thing is that we don't know how the lottery was started. By the time we show up to see this one it's been too many years. But I still doubt they would pick someone who was protesting it because of how supersitious they were. It also wouldn't have been such a game for them. If you see the way the children handle it, they could care less WHO it was as long as they got the chance to participate in this "adult" activity.

Jen//Hufflepuff

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