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What if...

Details: What if one slight decision at any point in the Harry Potter books had been different? What if Dean Thomas' father had told Dean's mother why he left the family to protect them? What if Ariana was standing one foot to the right had never been killed? What if Ariana had decided to stay indoors instead of going outside and meeting those Muggles in the first place? What if Kreacher had gone crazy and killed the baby Regulus meaning Sirius was the only child of the Blacks?

Have a think and a debate/disscussion about how small/big a change could have changed something ridic big/not at all. Uh. Be creative! try to find something different or interesting to change, you can use the ones above if you must.

Steps:
1. Pick a thing from HP to change
2. Explain how you think this would have changed the way the story unfolded, and if it'd change the outcome at all. Maybe the differences in the world once the story was over? (min 100 words)
3. Discuss/debate with other people about yours and theirs. Do you think it wouldn't have made the changes they think it would? Explain why. Do you agree and see some other changes that would have occurred, let them know :) (min 30 words and you can't just wholeheartedlyagree and gush at them)

Rules:

1. Don't pick the same one as someone else. If someone has already picked something then reply to their comment discussing/debating
2. Don't cause drama. Prove you can all civilly debate and discuss stuff.
3. Take heed of the word limits (100 words for first comment, 30 words for additional replies with a point that add to the discussion/debate)
4. Try not to make it a silly thing e.g. Harry ate some toast one morning instead of cereal and therefore the world ended.

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Thing you're changing: Arthur Weasley dies after the snake attack
How do you think this would have affected the outcome of the books? This was something JKR had in mind but she ended up not doing it. I think that was a good idea because if Arthur had died, it would have been really depressing. The Weasley family would have been devastated. I think Ron would have had a hard time going on for awhile and be too upset to help Harry and Hermione. I think the twins, though, would have been even more inspired to create their joke shop to cheer people up. I also think Percy may have come back to the family sooner. Molly would also be very upset for a long time. I can see her being really hesitant to let her children get involved with the War, not wanting anyone else to die, which would make it hard for Ron and Ginny to help Harry. After awhile, I can see her being fired up for her vengeance, but I think for the first while she'd take it very hard.

Chelsea/Ravenclaw/161

I agree with a lot of this, which is why I think ultimately JKR decided not to kill Arthur -- it just would have been too hard. The only positive familial figures in Harry's life would suddenly be really depressed and perhaps Molly wouldn't even be as motherly to Harry due to her depression and that would be extremely hard for him. And knowing Ron's character, he would probably blame Harry a lot and it would strain their friendship.

Caitie//Hufflepuff

On the other hand, Molly could be even MORE motherly to Harry (you have to keep the few family members you have left and stay extra close to them) - but would that make her extremely overprotective as well? I wonder if that would be good OR bad...

William//Slytherin

I can't help but feel like if Arthur was killed, Molly would sever ties with the Order. It's not that she's cowardly (anything but), it's just she has to protect her family above else, and if she loses Arthur, I think she would feel like it would just be too difficult. Of course most of her kids are adults by that point but she'd have Ginny..? Lol.

Noelle // Slytheirn // 7

I think on of the big differences for the books from killing Arthur would be more of a presence from the Bill and Charlie from that point, if nothing else, because the already poor family would have lost their only source of income. With out Arthur in the picture, I would think all the of age Weasley boys would feel obligated to come back and help support Molly and the younger children, which might actually have had the consequence of both bringing the family close together than they already are, and ameliorating some of their financial issues since they would now have three possibly four (from Percy) incomes.

The other way I would see it going, is the Order essentially taking in the Weasleys. Making Molly almost a full time Mother/Housekeeper an Headquarters, which would allow Harry to contribute as well as more fully integrate into the family as they would be around all the time, but in his house so the guest barrier (of his visits to the burrow) would no longer be there.

Allison/Ravenclaw/2

Edited 2011-11-13 18:12 (UTC)

While I agree that the family would have taken it hard, I think Arthur's death would have brought Bill and Charlie back home, so they could help out. I think Bill would have assumed the role of the head of the family, thus being able to veto some of Molly's decisions. I think Bill was able to see that while his brothers and sister were young, they would have fought in the war anyway and Bill would have pushed Molly to allow them to train and prepare for it. Also, I think Arthur's death would have pushed Percy away from the family, instead of closer to it. He'd probably try to make a new reputation for the Weasley name.

Lena/Gryffindor/6

oh, poor MOLLY. That would be really sad, and yes i agree about being more fired up and wanting no one to get involved. I also think Harry would be slightly more lost - i think aside from Sirius and Lupin he looked up to Arthur quite a bit too.

Tash//Slytherin

I agree that Arthur's death would have pushed Molly a bit over the edge. She had already lost her twin brothers in the first war and if her husband was killed early on in the second war she would have pulled all her children back closer to her. In my opinion Molly is a force to be reckoned with and she would have let anyone, Bill or Charlie, talk her out of protecting Ron and Ginny and even to some extent Fred and George from participating in the efforts to take down Voldemort. Without Ron the whole dynamics of Harry and Hermione would lead to a different ending.

Steph//Puff

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