ext_61113 ([identity profile] theaeblackthorn.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] hh_clubs2011-11-12 05:54 pm
Entry tags:

Wizarding Games: What if



What if...


Details: What if one slight decision at any point in the Harry Potter books had been different? What if Dean Thomas' father had told Dean's mother why he left the family to protect them? What if Ariana was standing one foot to the right had never been killed? What if Ariana had decided to stay indoors instead of going outside and meeting those Muggles in the first place? What if Kreacher had gone crazy and killed the baby Regulus meaning Sirius was the only child of the Blacks?

Have a think and a debate/disscussion about how small/big a change could have changed something ridic big/not at all. Uh. Be creative! try to find something different or interesting to change, you can use the ones above if you must.

Steps:
1. Pick a thing from HP to change
2. Explain how you think this would have changed the way the story unfolded, and if it'd change the outcome at all. Maybe the differences in the world once the story was over? (min 100 words)
3. Discuss/debate with other people about yours and theirs. Do you think it wouldn't have made the changes they think it would? Explain why. Do you agree and see some other changes that would have occurred, let them know :) (min 30 words and you can't just wholeheartedlyagree and gush at them)


Rules:

1. Don't pick the same one as someone else. If someone has already picked something then reply to their comment discussing/debating
2. Don't cause drama. Prove you can all civilly debate and discuss stuff.
3. Take heed of the word limits (100 words for first comment, 30 words for additional replies with a point that add to the discussion/debate)
4. Try not to make it a silly thing e.g. Harry ate some toast one morning instead of cereal and therefore the world ended.

Points: 10pts for your 100 word comment, 2pts per 30 word comment with a point. 30pts cap. 10pts for any crystal ball if you earn over 15pts. Dont' forget to register your bonus items in this post.
Deadline: 26th November 5pm UTC Converter
Submit

First comment




Also? Not a member? Want to join? Go here!

[identity profile] dragongirl3745.livejournal.com 2011-11-12 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Thing you're changing: Sirius' Death
How do you think this would have affected the outcome of the books? I think this would have affected the books in a big way, especially for Harry. Once Sirius was cleared of the murder charges, Harry would have had a guardian who cared about him. He wouldn't have had another person he loved die. He would have had a home and an adult he could get advice from. There would have been one more person on the side of good there at the final battle. Harry would have had someone who really knew his parents and could have told him about them, how they were as students and as adults. He would have had a physical connection to someone who knew his parents.

Anna//Hufflepuff//Word Count: 111

[identity profile] yasonablack.livejournal.com 2011-11-12 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely agree with you. I also wonder if Sirius stays alive, if Harry would be a lot more reluctant to die at the end of Deathly Hallows, as he finally has a real family with Sirius.

[identity profile] faeriesfolly.livejournal.com 2011-11-12 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I regret that JKR didn't address the fact that Harry did have a real family. Apart from Sirius, Harry had created a family with all of his friends that was stronger and more supportive and loving than a lot of his contemporaries could claim. I think it would have been another good point to make--that we can choose a family as well as being born into one.

Morgan//Slytherin//2

[identity profile] yasonablack.livejournal.com 2011-11-12 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
While Harry's friends are his real chosen family and a very strong and supportive one, especially with the Weasleys, I think Sirius also staying alive and being Harry's family gives Harry an adult/surrogate son relationship that he doesn't have. While Molly and Arthur Weasley are close, Harry doesn't rely on them or expect them to act like parents to him. (I'm totally with you on choosing family though!)

Yasona//Slytherin//2

[identity profile] deirdre-aithne.livejournal.com 2011-11-12 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
For the most part, I agree that Sirius living could have changed a lot for Harry, except as far as the connection with someone who knew his parents is concerned. He was able to write to Sirius, and talk to him a good bit that summer before fifth year, so he was already able to learn about them. And after Sirius's death, he had Remus, who knew his parents as well. The difference for Harry feeling he has a family and for the battle would be there, but I think any change it would make for Harry learning more about his parents is pretty negligible.

[identity profile] faeriesfolly.livejournal.com 2011-11-12 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Harry had access to learning about his parents from other sources. Even excluding Marauders from the equation, Harry is left with a number of people who knew both his parents and could share stories and anecdotes with him.

Morgan//Slytherin//1

[identity profile] slumber.livejournal.com 2011-11-12 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This is something I felt really bad about, because yeah, one of my favorite parts of the book is when Harry found out he had a godfather, and suddenly home seemed like a very real possibility. So on one part, I definitely agree with this.

On the other hand, though, would it have ultimately saved Sirius had he lived from that event? I feel like his love for Harry would have driven him to continue being reckless, and I honestly can't imagine him standing by letting Harry sacrifice his own life to defeat Voldemort. I think this was why he had to die.

Evy//Ravenclaw//1

[identity profile] faeriesfolly.livejournal.com 2011-11-12 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it would have been something that killed Sirius even if he hadn't been curtained. I do wish that enough about his death would have been changed so that it had not LITERALLY been curtains for Sirius. That always bugged me. Equally as much as Remus and Tonks dying "off-screen" which made their deaths just seem like pointless after thoughts.

Morgan//Slytherin//3
(deleted comment)

[identity profile] ivory88s.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it wouldn't have changed the story for Harry. Not only would Harry not have seen any other death as different, but he still would have blamed himself. Whether Sirius died on-screen, off-screen, in battle, defending something, etc, Harry would have blamed himself for it and been really hurt by it.

Malory//Ravenclaw//2

[identity profile] naushika.livejournal.com 2011-11-13 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god, this is my one big thing that I honestly wish could somehow have been different. I just want Harry and Sirius to have a long and wonderful relationship together. Harry wouldn't have been so angry and sad after Sirius' death. And Sirius would have likely encouraged the DA's continued activities, and more might have happened with that during HBP.

Noelle // Slytherin // 8

[identity profile] pixiestyxs.livejournal.com 2011-11-14 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely agree with you. If Sirius had lived, Harry wouldn't have felt alone and abandoned, and therefore he would have wanted to live because he had someone that was there for him.

Laura//Hufflepuff

[identity profile] everythingshiny.livejournal.com 2011-11-16 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Aww this would have been so nice, and Harry would be so different to who he is in the books. It would have been interesting to see if that harry could defeat Voldemort though.

Tash//slytherin

[identity profile] ivory88s.livejournal.com 2011-11-23 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this and several of the other comments already posted. I really wish Sirius had been around to support Harry, but I also think he would have just died some other way. He was never content to be holed up at Headquarters and with Harry out fighting, Sirius never would have let him go. And, in the end, Sirius was with Harry in his heart, giving him the courage to go on.

Malory//Ravenclaw//1