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Imagne going to the record store, and blaring from the loud speakers is an artist like Eminem. You have your two young children with you. Should they have to listen to that kind of music, even if you think that it is immoral?
The Topic of the debate is a popular one. Should Music/Movies/Magazine/Video Games/Etc. be censored? Should the government be able to say, "No You cannot put that on your album" or "That is too vulgur for our youth to see on the big screen!"
What I Want I want you to debate over this issue. Gryffindor//Slytherin will be arguing that the government SHOULD NOT be able to censor the media. Ravenclaw//Hufflepuff will be arguing that the government SHOULD be able to censor the media.
Rules
-Only qualifing comments count! They must be signed, be at least 3 sentences, stay on topic, and stay on your assigned side.
-Keep it civil. If you don't agree with what someone says, let it slide off your back, and don't start an argument. You will not be allowed to participate in the contest for SPEW.
-Have fun! Thats what I want most of all

The Break Down
-10 points for first comment.
-5 points for each additional comment.
Deadline
-The debate will end THURSDAY, Mar. 2nd, at 8 P.M. EST!

Thank you!

DEBATE OVER! Sorry, I had to end it a little early, but I have a paper due tomorrow, and it will take me the rest of the night to finish it.

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You can hear music through rolled up windows. A single pane of glass, unfortunately, doesn't magically stop sound waves and intense vibrations. Property management doesn't care unless it's "quiet hours."

Personal taste is exactly my point, which you missed apparently. No one should be subjected to anyone else's taste. If it's going to be loud, it should at the VERY least not be offensive. Hence my statement, "Bach or even Weird Al is one thing. Salt n Pepa or Public Enemy is one thing, this shit is quite another."

I don't necessarily like Public Enemy, but at least most of their lyrics are LYRICS and not a string of vulgarities.

That was the point. You can't police someone's volume level every hour of every day- you CAN police the lyrics before they hit mass consumption.

Karina Black, Ravenclaw

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For many bach, mozart, and other famous classical composers are viewed as offensive

This is a personal opinion, silly, and thusly negates the argument. There isn't anyone offended by ambient non-lyrical music. Some are annoyed, sure, but most don't care or even notice.

Who is to say which cultures values are higher then anothers?
EXACTLY!
Why should someone's cultural value of wanting to hear strings of vulgarities outweigh my cultural value of everyone shutting the hell up? :)

It's smoking vs non-smoking. It's air pollution, and if you're not a smoker/into that sort of thing, you shouldn't have to be exposed to it.

You can police the lyrics and visions before they hit mass media, and we SHOULD!

Karina Black, Ravenclaw

You can hear music through rolled up windows. A single pane of glass, unfortunately, doesn't magically stop sound waves and intense vibrations.

While a single pane of glass does not block all sound waves it does block a majority of them. Also those individuals who blast their music in public are a minority compared to those who do not, thus making it improper for the government to step in.

Property management doesn't care unless it's "quiet hours."

Some do, some don't. This is dependent upon the living area. Once again local authorities (as their are city laws/state laws/etc which cover such matters) are only a call away.

Personal taste is exactly my point, which you missed apparently. No one should be subjected to anyone else's taste. If it's going to be loud, it should at the VERY least not be offensive. Hence my statement, "Bach or even Weird Al is one thing. Salt n Pepa or Public Enemy is one thing, this shit is quite another.",

Offense is also a matter of personal taste. For many bach, mozart, and other famous classical composers are viewed as offensive, for others post modernistic music is considered offensive. Who is to say which cultures values are higher then anothers?

I don't necessarily like Public Enemy, but at least most of their lyrics are LYRICS and not a string of vulgarities.

both of which are a form of artistic expression. when the statue of david was first displayed it was considered vulgar. yet many today would argue that it is art in its prime.

That was the point. You can't police someone's volume level every hour of every day- you CAN police the lyrics before they hit mass consumption.

True you can, but should we? The answer is No.

Trent | Slytherin

Poking my nose in unasked to back up Trent.

You can hear music through rolled up windows. A single pane of glass, unfortunately, doesn't magically stop sound waves and intense vibrations.

Actually, in most areas, playing music that can be heard clearly from 10-20 feet away is illegal in most cities I know of. (Admittedly, I don't travel much.) If you can hear offensive music from inside your own vehical, the general procedure is to note the liscense plate number and report the violation of noise pollution laws as soon as it's convenient. If everyone did, the number of offenses would decline with every fine issued, and the subject of censoring the lyrics would be a moot point. The issue here isn't a matter of morals, it's a matter of common courtesy and noise pollution. Personally, I'd be offended at music that loud no matter what was playing...

Moon Faery//Slytherin

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